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zergrush 58 minutes ago [-]
I don't get it what does his personal life has to do with him running NVIDIA? Also despite what is being disseminated in the mainstream media, he lobbied to make China reliant on much older chips which were approved and puts America at a huge advantage, but narratives are being wildly twisted to sell that Jensen Huang acted dishonorably against this country.
There is a nasty smear campaign against Jensen Huang throughout social media, cheating on his wife is one thing, political maneuvering before we even learn of what the actual damage if any was done and kneecapping an enterprise while America has a lead over others in AI is sabotage.
JumpCrisscross 53 minutes ago [-]
> what does his personal life has to do with him running NVIDIA?
Jensen banged a customer and Chinese spy while advocating for lifting exports controls on China and corruptly quashing investigations into her firm [1].
He couldn’t have turned this into more of a public spectacle and concern if he tried. (Coming clean right after the Congress flipped didn’t help.)
He also wanted to lift export controls to China before he met her. It's unclear that she actually influenced anything in that direction. His bread would already have been buttered for selling to additional markets.
Selling to her data center in Malaysia, a Token Speak-easy as Mo called it, may be a bigger deal in actual effect.
JumpCrisscross 18 minutes ago [-]
> He also wanted to lift export controls to China before he met her
Not exonerating.
Flip to WWII. Charles Lindbergh was always sympathetic to the Nazis. If he got compromised by a German spy, how would that change the color of his advocacy?
This is bad. The fact that Jensen expected to get away with it, all the way until Congress flipped, speaks to how badly our country’s Epstein class has embraced their imperviousness.
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itishappy 50 minutes ago [-]
> I don't get it what does his personal life has to do with him running NVIDIA?
Is she purely a figure from his personal life, or might she have some connection to him running NVIDIA?
smt88 56 minutes ago [-]
This isn’t about his personal life. This affair led to compromised business decisions that affect global politics. And he covered it up for a full year.
nonethewiser 49 minutes ago [-]
Which business decision was compromised?
blensor 40 minutes ago [-]
The one where she was director of a Singapore datacenter company that is now suspected of circumventing US export restrictions to China.
It was not illegal to sell to Megaspeed. It should have been in my opinion (lets be real, Singapore=China in this context), but it was not. NVIDIA is obligated to comply with export controls and they did. Megaspeed wasn't black listed. The good business decision is to sell more chips not less.
JumpCrisscross 16 minutes ago [-]
> was not illegal to sell to Megaspeed. It should have been
It was not illegal because Nvidia ensured it wouldn’t be [1].
That wouldn't have changed the fact that they legally sold Megaspeed chips though.
Megaspeed was not blacklisted. If Megaspeed did become export controlled and NVIDIA sold them chips then that's definitely a carless business decision. But lobbying the government not to blacklist a customer is not.
I don't see a compelling reason for NVIDIA to fire Huang. If stuff comes out and he was doing something fraudulent and evading export controls then I would agree that's a bad business decision. It puts NVIDIA at risk to say the least. And what NVIDIA and Huang did could even be bad for the country.
JumpCrisscross 9 minutes ago [-]
> wouldn't have changed the fact that they legally sold Megaspeed chips
It very well could have, apart from the corruption.
Congress wrote a law designating certain categories of companies illegal to sell chips to. Commerce was in charge of implementing it. If Nvidia fucked with Commerce, that could make the sales illegal even without a destination—the law the Congress wrote controls.
verdverm 40 minutes ago [-]
One possibility is lobbying Trump, who has pushed for easing export controls to China, against the advice of the national security professionals. There's that 15% revenue share that was negotiated around the same time Trump was informed about Megaspeed, Alice, and Jensen.
There is a lot more to this story
nonethewiser 26 minutes ago [-]
Right, a lot of the outrage is about potential corruption with the Trump admin.
nonethewiser 54 minutes ago [-]
The outrage is mostly about people's hatred for the tech sector and it's leaders. Being friendly with Trump, absurdly rich, ai adjacent, etc. There is a perception of oligarchy, corruption, exploitation, stealing from the poor, etc.
hackmack10 42 minutes ago [-]
It will be glorious watching the downfall for sure. This guy enabled the robbery of human civilization. He was doing his best to prevent local AI from taking off. Basically, he's an all around ruthless piece of shit, like most CEO's.
He wasn't just trying to get some honey on his stinger. He's much more nefarious than that.
bamboozled 52 minutes ago [-]
You're using the term outrage, I think others just see it for what it is, very stupid, very juvenile, very untrustworthy and this all makes him very compromised?
nonethewiser 50 minutes ago [-]
>You're using the term outrage, I think others just see it for what it is, very stupid, very juvenile, very untrustworthy
I'm using the term "outrage" to describe the public's reaction to his actions. You are using the terms "very stupid" etc. to describe his actions, right? I don't see any disagreement between us.
JumpCrisscross 50 minutes ago [-]
The term outrage tends to colloquially imply overreaction.
nonethewiser 44 minutes ago [-]
1) That doesn't clarify his comparison
2) I do not agree outrage implies overreaction. Here is a local news article from 2 days ago about the outrage some racist gesture caused. Do you think they are implying the negative reaction to racist gestures is overblown? https://www.wtva.com/2026/11/09/ole-miss-students-doorbell-c...
bamboozled 43 minutes ago [-]
I truly don't think "the public" are outraged, just probably amused, and mostly think it's a scummy thing to do to your wife and family?
People can think something is a bad decision without having to be outraged, or have others claim they are outraged?
nonethewiser 40 minutes ago [-]
You are splitting hairs. People feel strongly about what he did and what sort of punishment he should incur.
You can substitute in "People feel strongly about what he did and what sort of punishment he should incur" for the term "outrage" above and you will understand my meaning.
drcongo 22 minutes ago [-]
You carry on, I'm only here to watch the astroturfing.
nonethewiser 18 minutes ago [-]
>Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith.
selling $7 billion of your company’s product to your affair partner - despite export restrictions - certainly seems directly related to how he runs NVIDIA.
Getting caught publicly making egregious unforced errors in judgment is hardly a smear campaign.
bamboozled 53 minutes ago [-]
Hard to believe you don't see the issue with having an affair with a spy?
readthenotes1 35 minutes ago [-]
Eric Swalwell face liitle repercussions for having an affair with a Chinese spy while being on the house intelligence committee.
I'm not sure US law should reach into foreigners bedrooms (Or wherever they were doing it)
JumpCrisscross 30 minutes ago [-]
> not sure US law should reach into foreigners bedrooms
But it does, and it did at the time of Jensen’s alleged crimes.
If Nvidia keeps him it deserves what’s coming for it.
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esseph 10 minutes ago [-]
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gradus_ad 1 hours ago [-]
Were Jensen simply a caretaker CEO, a vanilla Board appointment, I would say he should resign.
But that is not the case. He is the founder. A founder has a very different relationship to a company. He is its father and mother, and severing that relationship and transitioning to a CEO that does not have the same relationship is fraught with danger.
As a shareholder, for purely self interested reasons, I would be very hesitant to call for his removal.
JumpCrisscross 59 minutes ago [-]
> As a shareholder, for purely self interested reasons, I would be very hesitant to call for his removal
The tragedy is resigning may avoid Jensen becoming the target of the Congress or even criminal prosecutors, now at the state level or down the line federally. (To say nothing of the coming shareholder, supplier and customer lawsuits.)
If this were just an affair, it would be nothing. If it were an affair with a customer, it could be excused with counseling. If it were an affair with a customer who turned out to be a Chinese spy, he might still be able to survive with a hiatus.
But he tried to cover it up. He lied, had Nvidia lie, had the U.S. quash investigations, and only came clean when his cronies in Congress lost. The corruption is where he loses me completely. This isn’t just a question for Nvidia shareholders.
svara 4 minutes ago [-]
> If it were an affair with a customer who turned out to be a Chinese spy, he might still be able to survive with a hiatus.
You didn't even go the one escalation step further to "and allegedly involved in circumventing export controls on his company's products.".
For me that's the part where it just becomes impossible to believe he can continue as if nothing happened, even if it turned out she didn't influence him.
SirFatty 1 hours ago [-]
It's always about the money...
HoldOnAMinute 59 minutes ago [-]
Speaking strictly from a fiduciary duty point of view, it's in everyone's interest for Nvidia to sell as many chips as possible to as many customers as possible.
ivanmontillam 48 minutes ago [-]
Even if that includes inserting the chips where appropriate.
prpl 57 minutes ago [-]
It is a public company, not a private company. There’s evidence of what must be described as treason.
lenerdenator 45 minutes ago [-]
Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer. I don't play one on TV, in movies, or even in local avant-garde community theatre productions.
Treason is one of a few (if not the only) crimes defined in the Constitution by the framers.
It is offering aid and comfort to the enemy, or taking up arms against the US government.
China is a geopolitical rival, but you have to find a good definition for "enemy" in order to charge Huang, or anyone else, with treason. The best definition would likely be any country that the United States has declared war upon. Given that we have not done that with China, I don't think that you could convince a jury that he'd committed treason.
Espionage charges? Maybe.
hackmack10 38 minutes ago [-]
Lock him up. If he was enabling China in an arms race for the most powerful technology in human civilization, there isn't much worse treason than that.
Lock him up.
JumpCrisscross 19 minutes ago [-]
> there isn't much worse treason than that
He was corrupt. We have no evidence he committed treason, though if he was knowingly trying to advance China’s AI, against the will of Congress and in contravention of the law, he might have.
We need investigations. And we need him to stay in the country, possibly at home, while that happens. There are also a lot of powerful people who helped him cover up his crimes who will now call for forgiving him, possibly because what he did is worse than what we know.
bayarearefugee 52 minutes ago [-]
> As a shareholder, for purely self interested reasons, I would be very hesitant to call for his removal.
He's 63 years old and by all reports has never even considered any sort of succession plan, which seems wildly irresponsible to me.
At the very least, even if he manages to keep his position after this event, this should be a wakeup call to NVIDIA shareholders that this is something he really needs to address and very soon. Nobody gets to do this forever.
smt88 57 minutes ago [-]
Uber and many other companies got dramatically better once the founder left.
Huang generally presides over extremely risky and thin governance for one of the most important companies. A more humble and responsible person needs to replace him.
dataflow 60 minutes ago [-]
> He is its father and mother
Is he also the nation's father and mother? Because the allegation is he put the nation's security at risk, not just the business. Or is the idea that once you found a company in some country that brings you great wealth, then you get to risk their security with impunity?
(To be clear, I am not taking a position on whether he should stay or go. I'm just pointing out your missing falls short of considering some very salient facts, and treats this like a generic founder scandal.)
skullone 32 minutes ago [-]
Wow, simping for a cheating CEO, "think of the shareholders if the founding father/mother gets forced out!". You're weird
stackghost 1 hours ago [-]
> As a shareholder, from purely self interested reasons, I would be very hesitant to call for his removal.
What’s good for your portfolio and what’s good for the long term health of the company are not always the same thing.
lenerdenator 60 minutes ago [-]
The cult of the founder is arguably the worst thing to come out of SV culture, and that's saying something.
If you create an environment where there are no consequences, you're inviting trouble for you as a shareholder.
If he can do this and not face serious consequences from the company, then he can do other things that are damaging, including to your bottom line.
Depending on what investigations find, it might not even matter.
dawnerd 1 hours ago [-]
Could say the same about quite a few tech companies with founders (or the ones that think they’re the founder) at the helm. The companies would all be fine and some even better off without.
andsoitis 1 hours ago [-]
Very well argued piece covering all the angles of pro/against I’ve seen here on HN and elsewhere.
All the roads lead to he must resign or be fired.
nonethewiser 59 minutes ago [-]
How is Huang resigning best for NVIDIA?
smt88 56 minutes ago [-]
Read the article and find out?
nonethewiser 23 minutes ago [-]
cant and I'm asking the person who said everything points to firing him.
mi_lk 1 hours ago [-]
any non-paywall copy to share?
trvz 1 hours ago [-]
Mildly amusingly, an LLM running on Nvidia hardware will gladly help you avoid paying the Economist.
01284a7e 1 hours ago [-]
I'm glad my "Summarize HN thread and submit to Economist" prompt is working.
sanex 1 hours ago [-]
I don't live living in this no forgiveness court of public opinion society. Everyone makes mistakes CEOs are people too. Do you fire the intern to takes down prod? Only if he does it twice.
doctorhandshake 58 minutes ago [-]
This is a bit of a reductio ad absurdum. He didn’t fat finger a bad command. He had an intimate relationship with an adversarial intelligence asset that was also running a $4B smuggling operation moving his embargoed goods into a foreign adversary’s industry.
nonethewiser 20 minutes ago [-]
Yeah but if he didn't know about it then the thing he did wrong is just cheating on his wife. Megaspeed and any similar Singaporean company should be export controlled but they werent. Selling more chips isnt a mistake.
nh23423fefe 18 minutes ago [-]
So? how would his removal help nvidia?
use93859203 48 minutes ago [-]
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ivanmontillam 50 minutes ago [-]
Yes, I fully agree.
We have to stop expecting top CEOs to be perfect, required to have spotless reputation.
Jensen is relatable. I've seen him drinking a beer or two. Signing the chest of a fan.
Trillion-dollar companies CEOs use toilet paper too!
Every hero is also a heel. Why do we have to require that top CEOs have to be the full white of the Ying Yang, without the black dot? Why? Why?
JumpCrisscross 49 minutes ago [-]
> Why do we have to require that top CEOs have to be the full white of the Ying Yang, without the black dot?
What?
Also, don’t sleep with your customers and foreign spies and don’t corruptly quash federal investigations isn’t a black dot.
quietsegfault 60 minutes ago [-]
Can you think of how what Huang did is different than an intern causing an outage?
bamboozled 56 minutes ago [-]
Well taking down prod is often a mistake, having an actual affair is calculated.
You can say it's "feelings" or whatever but the right thing to do would've been to be open with your wife and family about your feelings and then get a divorce and pursue the relationship...or not have the affair at all.
If he wanted the relationship that badly, not only should he have been open with his family, but he shouldn't have done so with a spy who probably has gigabytes of "kompromat" on him.
I don't blame anyone for making "mistakes", maybe even a moment of weakness or whatever, would be different, but from the article I read, seemed like an on going relationship.
The problem is, he is perceived as an untrustworthy liar who hides things and get away with them if he can.
qoez 1 hours ago [-]
Anyone have a good model of how much more GPU prices would go up (or down) in the world where he resigns vs not. My guess is they would go up even more with some much more ruthless CEO who'd wanna prove himself able to push up the stock price but I guess a counter argument is that there's only so much higher the prices can go so maybe it wouldn't be much different.
bigwheels 1 hours ago [-]
For better or worse, Jensen === NVIDIA. It’s hard to overstate the key-person risk here.
Without Jensen, the stock will tank. He has pulled NV from the brink of disaster many times, and also selected the critical investments which paid off and allowed AI to be born (CUDA), even before they made any sense whatsoever. How do you replace that kind of intuition without decreasing the potency of the company? Face it, he's the modern day Steve Jobs.
stetrain 1 hours ago [-]
A company so big so reliant a single person is a risk either way, it's just a matter of when it gets resolved. It's the bus factor. See also what would happen to $3T in combined market value if Elon Musk were to have a stroke tomorrow.
numpad0 55 minutes ago [-]
Entire NVIDIA is, of which Huang is a serially dependent part of
JumpCrisscross 28 minutes ago [-]
It’s a failure of succession planning and leadership. That Nvidia shareholders didn’t correctly address this risk isn’t America’s problem.
ilovecake1984 1 hours ago [-]
They will plummet if it turns out a large proportion of them have been sold to China and this route is now closed.
zergrush 56 minutes ago [-]
The stuff they are selling aren't for consumer GPUs those have completely different supply chain economics and they are not coming down for reasons why everything else is elevated in prices
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ProblemExplorer 53 minutes ago [-]
What people don't realize is this was a (successful? depends on you and how you force NVIDIA's hands) foreign intelligence operation to undermine the foundational fabric on top of which all of US Domestic AI is built.
Leave your personal hatred for job killing, soul sucking AI aside for a bit:
You cannot swap CEOs like you can swap a filesystem without having severe ripple effects. Even swapping one mature filesystem to another mature filesystem has deep consequences and can even lead you to losing data.
And this is a co-founder of the company. NVIDIA is where it is today because of him.
In every video I've seen of Jensen Huang, I've seen a genuine person who wants to do good. Yes, he caved in to basic instincts but that was because he was being actively pursued.
Whether that was a mistake is only for him and his wife to decide together. It's not our decision to make or sway. We will find out their decision soon enough.
If this affects his performance as a CEO, he has to resign.
However, make no mistake that this was an attack by a foreign government to the foundational fabric on top of which all of US Domestic AI is built.
Also take into account that the U.S was going to enter into a deep recession had it not been for Domestic AI - as much as we hate AI and curse it, banks are still operating, grocery stores are still open, welders and electricians still have jobs.
If you think we have it bad now, it's provably better than what would happen in a deep recession. The last one happened in 2008 so some of you here might not have been out of school yet, but it was very, very bad.
This is a trillion dollar stake corporate espionage. This is how cold war looks like.
bayarearefugee 1 hours ago [-]
> Jensen Huang Must Resign
He should probably go to jail (after a fair trial, of course).
Even with the few public facts we have now, I don't know how a reasonable person could conclude that it isn't extremely likely that he knew all about the export control diversions that were going on. He would have to be an idiot not to, and he clearly isn't an idiot.
Of course there's no way a centibillionaire is going to do 20 days in jail, let alone 20 years (because we don't live in a society with an actually functioning rule of law), but resigning and disappearing from public life is getting off easy here.
kylestanfield 1 hours ago [-]
I agree with you. The reporting around this makes it sound like he got tricked. He’s been against the export controls from day one.
zergrush 54 minutes ago [-]
Fortunately, that random law you pulled itself says there has to be beyond reasonable doubt conspiracy and malice intent. This doesn't seem to be the case seeing Jensen himself was caught offguard by the nature of his relationship.
The same legal system that protects you applies to everyone else billionaire or not.
bayarearefugee 48 minutes ago [-]
> This doesn't seem to be the case seeing Jensen himself was caught offguard by the nature of his relationship.
There are two separate aspects to his relationship that are important:
1) Did he know she was a Chinese spy? Maybe not. I have no idea. It would certainly be hard to prove.
2) Did he know her company was diverting stock to the Chinese market? Almost certainly. He would have to be an actual moron to not realize this years ago, and he isn't a moron. I'd be shocked if after investigation that enough evidence didn't come to light to prove without a shadow of a doubt that he knew about the diversion the whole time.
#2 is where his real legal troubles lie. #1 is just the dramatic clickbait intrigue but not really what is likely to sink him.
The only way #1 is really important is in that it is drawing a lot of attention to looking into #2 (which was, by many reports, already a widely known open secret despite the illegality).
Kevin_Flynn 1 hours ago [-]
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nsagent 58 minutes ago [-]
I just listened to a new podcast from Kara Swisher and Hillary Clinton. In it, Kara also calls for his resignation, but interestingly Clinton never does (though she never directly contradicts Kara either). Instead Hillary talks about how during her time as Secretary of State there were lots of business people both big and small that were targets of foreign spies and that they would brief those individuals to give them a heads up (something that was reportedly not done for Jensen Huang).
It's insane to think people don't consider a successful state sponsored hack as a failing of the individual, but a spy compromising them is. It's clear that nations will go to extremes that people are unaccustomed to dealing with. Lots of people have affairs — feel free to call that a personal moral failing, but treating it as a business failing is outlandish considering how frequently it happens and how it rarely has any business impact.
EDIT: If an investigation shows he actually did break the law, then by all means skewer him at that point. Calling for his resignation before actual evidence of legal wrongdoing (other than personal moral failings) is just premature.
JumpCrisscross 54 minutes ago [-]
> Lots of people have affairs
Most people don’t have their buddies in the White House quash the investigations into their lover’s firm [1].
(She also hasn't been secretary of state for nearly 14 years, you know.)
Kevin_Flynn 14 minutes ago [-]
This seems to be boiling down to:
1. Hillary took a random walk through life, and ended up Secretary of State.
or
2. It fit her personality perfectly. She was the woman for the job.
You'll figure it out eventually, as my tone isn't a factor.
JumpCrisscross 1 hours ago [-]
> The man has a track record of winning
The article calls for resignation. Not execution.
He can do something great again with his life. Just not while he’s spending the next year being investigated in multiple countries and going through family issues.
Kevin_Flynn 52 minutes ago [-]
Just not while he’s spending the next year being investigated in multiple countries and going through family issues.
Yes, and that was exactly the point of sending a prostitute to compromise him.
Destabalise the enemy.
When did he become 'the enemy' ? When Joe Biden crippled GPU perf on imports to China, and China decided to make their own instead.
You don't just make your own GPU. You ruin the guys that wouldn't share theirs.
This is all just politics on the world stage, at the olympic level.
JumpCrisscross 34 minutes ago [-]
> sending a prostitute
We have zero evidence whether she was sent or recruited after Beijing discovered the relationship.
We might have had that evidence had Nvidia not corruptly quashed the federal investigation [1].
> This is all just politics on the world stage
What do you think China would do if we compromised one of their tech CEOs? What would America in the Cold War, when we still had a spine, have done to an executive working to advance Soviet interests while sleeping with one of their agents and influencing American policy?
> Yes, and that was exactly the point of sending a prostitute to compromise him.
This is unnecessarily misogynistic silliness to add to your other bigotry. She's a forty-something woman and she evidently is actually CEO of a client company.
She may actually be an intelligence asset, and she may actually be manipulating him, but we don't have to resort to this tone.
Kevin_Flynn 35 minutes ago [-]
It was an accurate use of the word 'prostitute.'
1. A person considered as having compromised principles for personal gain.
2. A woman giver to indiscriminate lewdness; a strumpet; a harlot.
And now we know the difference between inference and implication.
dofm 32 minutes ago [-]
Or, she is the executive of a tech firm who finds herself variously compelled to act on behalf of the nation she works for.
Not every intelligence asset is willing and you don't know the above with any certainty.
Kevin_Flynn 6 minutes ago [-]
So theres no scandal here then.
I agree completely.
JumpCrisscross 25 minutes ago [-]
By that pair of standards, Jensen is a prostitute.
viklove 1 hours ago [-]
The CEO worship on this website is bizarre
tadfisher 1 hours ago [-]
Same phenomenon with dictator worship, and authoritarianism in general. Organizations that structure all their operations around a single power figure seem to be the most effective, but we're ignoring all the downsides: single point of failure, lack of checks against poor (or illegal) decisions, and of course we're ignoring the countless failed organizations with the exact same structure.
llama052 1 hours ago [-]
Tech CEOs are just the modern day cult leaders.
verdverm 1 hours ago [-]
A framing I have recently encountered is "The Tyranny of Merit"
> A framing I have recently encountered is "The Tyranny of Merit"
I'm sure the CEOs would love for us to believe that they are in their position because of merit.
verdverm 58 minutes ago [-]
more than that, they need to feel that they deserve their outsized wealth and impact, as compared to other people, due to their merit, as opposed to the vast luck, circumstances, and support from those under them
stackghost 57 minutes ago [-]
It’s been like this for as long as I can remember. The incessant corporate bootlicking is one of the reasons why HN is so widely derided elsewhere on the internet.
For a place called Hacker News there isn’t much Hacker spirit, irrespective of which definition of Hacker one uses.
paxy 1 hours ago [-]
YC is full of temporarily embarassed tech billionaries by definition.
toyg 45 minutes ago [-]
Dude, HN is literally the propaganda arm of an incubator program. Of course they like CEOs, creating CEOs is why they exist - and why this site used to be more interesting, before it turned into another Slashdot.
Kevin_Flynn 1 hours ago [-]
Im doing the math, not dusting a golden calf.
The public thinks the spy affair is a scandal, but the governments that can really hang the man see it as a round of chess.
Boards of directors and investors, we know where they vote, typically where they are legally obligated to, financial interests of shareholders.
And thats where we are right now, british billionaires magazine wants him fired. That doesn't exactly ruin his life, just being fired.
He'll survive this. Enjoy the show.
hackyhacky 58 minutes ago [-]
> Im doing the math, not dusting a golden calf.
No. You haven't even tries to show that Jensen is essential to Nvidia's success. You've just said "Nvidia stock is up, Jensen is CEO, QED." That's not persuasive.
Fact is that Nvidia's stock price is mostly due to factors outside of his control. Like most CEOs,he he could be replaced with a slice of buttered toast and the same result would be achieved. So why keep him around when he's already admitted to unethical behavior? A man who cheats on his wife will cheat his investors, too.
Kevin_Flynn 47 minutes ago [-]
No. You haven't even tries to show that Jensen is essential to Nvidia's success.
No, I haven't, because my post was about Jensen THE MAN, and I don't own stock in Nvidia. I'm kinda pissed at Nvidia.
Lets hope Jensen gets fired, and starts Nvidia^2, so Nvidia has real competition.
Interesting times.
LogicFailsMe 1 hours ago [-]
The thing is pessimists make money, optimists make money, stupid idealists get slaughtered...
As a CEO, he kicks ass...
As a husband, public humiliation by memes and private humiliation by his family are in order...
How is a model minority infidelity with a woman who probably wasn't a spy, but was absolutely out to oust Lori Huang like Lauren Sanchez ousted Mackenzie Bezos worse than a felon convicted of accounting fraud put in charge of Cerebras? And don't even start on they should all be thrown out. We didn't throw out creepy, stalking, semi-assaulty womanizing Eric (piece of) Schmidt. Why don't we all just take a step back and acknowledge the model minority racism inherent in the outrage here.
Downvotes I'm sure, but I doubt anyone is going to spell out a case where JHH needs to go, but all systems normal with Sergey Brin, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Eric Schmidt, and everyone else on that page, some of whom are likely in the Epstein files which JHH isn't.
Harper Valley PTA hypocrisy to the moon here.
hackyhacky 57 minutes ago [-]
> How is a model minority infidelity with a woman who probably wasn't a spy, but was absolutely out to oust Lori Huang like Lauren Sanchez ousted Mackenzie Bezos worse than a felon convicted of accounting fraud put in charge of Cerebras?
It's not about the act itself. It's a data point about the man's character and judgment.
A man who cheats on his wife will cheat his investors, too.
LogicFailsMe 30 minutes ago [-]
The hypocritical American Puritan Ethic is why we are going to lose this AI war. Every accusation is a confession, no exceptions. I'm taking Mandarin lessons next year, how about you?
And you didn't answer the question, how is this any worse than any other tech CEO's imbroglios beyond the currently specious assertion she's a spy?
hackyhacky 26 minutes ago [-]
If condemnation of lying and cheating is "Puritanical" to you, then you deserve what you get. Enjoy China.
LogicFailsMe 22 minutes ago [-]
I enjoy China annually, the food is fantastic. But again, why aren't you demanding the resignation of all the other liars and cheaters? Could it be they're white? Heaven forbid we hold the president to higher standards than paying off a porn star to stay silent after he banged her while his wife was pregnant. You guys set the standard so shut the f*** up until you clean up your own house.
Kevin_Flynn 43 minutes ago [-]
Investors smell entirely different than prostitutes, for the record.
LogicFailsMe 30 minutes ago [-]
You have lived an interesting life if you have the experience to smell the difference. I salute you!
knose 1 hours ago [-]
cool it with the antisemitic remarks
quietsegfault 57 minutes ago [-]
I was at an AI founders event in NYC and had an amazingly beautiful Slavic style woman throw herself at me and my buddy. Neither of us are the type that would have supermodel types interested in us based on looks alone. It was so damn obvious.
santoshalper 1 hours ago [-]
The public is not thinking "how did he not know she was a spy?"
The public is thinking "Why did he have an affair with a business partner? (who also happened to be a spy). That is a massive conflict of interest. Was he putting Nvidia's interests first, or his own?
I am not convinced that he needs to resign, but describing this as a speed bump is utterly delusional.
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Kevin_Flynn 1 hours ago [-]
20% of men and 13% of women, in marriages, reported having affairs at least once, and thats only the people who told on themselves.
Who hasn't had a momentary lapse of reason, especially when sex is involved ?
The billionaire class who could hang him understand all this.
His status in life is up for a vote. What do you think is happening ?
Status is a moving target.
Status is a popularity contest.
Status is not your identity.
He is going to keep being Jensen Huang.
bigstrat2003 51 minutes ago [-]
> Who hasn't had a momentary lapse of reason, especially when sex is involved ?
A lot of people. Let's say that only half the people who have an affair admit it on polls like that. That still means that the majority of men and women are faithful to their spouses.
verdverm 59 minutes ago [-]
It's not about the affair, it's about the failures in security and intelligence and rule of law. This story is about much more, we will see much more eventually.
hackyhacky 53 minutes ago [-]
> Who hasn't had a momentary lapse of reason, especially when sex is involved ?
Sorry, I thought CEOs were mighty Atlases standing astride above the world of ordinary men. Now you're saying that we shouldn't hold them to a higher standard of behavior?
If his judgment is this poor about infidelity, I can only assume his judgment is even worse in matters of significant complexity.
wigster 1 hours ago [-]
he's compromised. who knows what leverage this might lead to. cheerio
nater5000 1 hours ago [-]
Ok, you get that the issue isn't that he "looks like a fool" for having an affair, right? If that's the worst thing he's done as a billionaire, he's relatively a saint.
The issue is that he may have just been caught effectively subverting US national security. Like, even in just the teaser paragraph, they spell that out:
>American officials think she is a Chinese spy, and that her Singaporean company is a front for smuggling the politically sensitive chips into China.
That's a very bad look. Way worse than just "looking like a fool".
W3cUYxYwmXb5c 1 hours ago [-]
Has there any proof of any actual subversion of national security?
I mean, sleeping with a spy is not the same as giving her any secrets or chips.
A third point is that, as an Nvidia investor, I don't really care what the US government considers a "national secret" or if china gets the secret too.
I care if this harm Nvidia's ability to generate revenue.
hackyhacky 56 minutes ago [-]
> A third point is that, as an Nvidia investor, I don't really care what the US government considers a "national secret" or if china gets the secret too.
Good for you. Hopefully, the NVidia board does care about actually following the law.
verdverm 1 hours ago [-]
> Has there any proof of any actual subversion of national security?
Let's see what investigations by the board and congress uncover. It's only been days since the story broke. As a share holder, you may care that he has damaged Nvidia's reputation with the dealings (China & Trump) surrounding this.
trvz 1 hours ago [-]
The law doesn’t apply to the woman and her company, on account of being limited to the USA.
The law also doesn’t apply to an American billionaire, on account of being a billionaire.
So really, nothing wrong happened here.
dofm 1 hours ago [-]
That's spelt Rothschilds. It's a nice little conspiracy trope you're working there with the quotes around "the British billionaires" but you should probably just say "Jews" or "globalists" so everyone gets your point. Why waste time with euphemisms when you have something this novel to say?
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verdverm 1 hours ago [-]
Many people believe the time for letting the wealthy and elite do what ever they want without consequence should be over. See last week's election results
What we need is an investigation and transparency into the details. Why was Trump able to negotiate a 15% profit sharing deal with Jensen shortly after Trump was informed about this? How much did Jensen know about the export control violations?
A determination for either outcome is unwarranted without more information.
dragonelite 1 hours ago [-]
Dam is an Asian merchant not allowed to have a mistress or two..
hackmack10 28 minutes ago [-]
This dude was signing boobs just a few months ago, thinking he was a rock star. Also, no doubt this isn't the first time he cheated on his wife, you never get caught the first time.
siliconc0w 58 minutes ago [-]
Isn't it an open secret that Singapore is largely a front for smuggling GPUs into China? I think it's a they know we know they know situation where as long as the stock market goes up to the right, the right political donations get made, and they don't get too brazen about it - no one looks too closely.
maxglute 6 minutes ago [-]
Or Jensen should spend his fortune sue the fuck out the natsec deep state types for yellow peril shenanigans trying to push him out the second Trump loses political power and undermining Nvidia fiscal position. Reality is there's still zero evidence she was spy, publicly posting Jensen fuckboi behavior on Chinese social media last few months. Or Chinese national talking to chinese gov =/= spy, just business usual everywhere unless customary US natsec China Initiative framing designed to discredit when no impropriety was done. AKA no reason Jensen did an illegal like supermicro... operated on the extreme edge of legality sure, i.e. letter of law which pisses off export control hawks that can't figure out how to draft tight laws, and getting consistently outplayed by Jensen. Hence coordinated media campaign framing generic public affair for sticking dick in 40 year old worse than 16 year old, because pedophiles can still be patriotic vs yellow fever, or something.
igleria 19 minutes ago [-]
does he get a golden parachute if he resigns?
ThePinion 58 minutes ago [-]
So is everyone already commenting their say about all this because we're all Economist subscribers here or are we reading the headline of the paywall and rolling with it?
underseacables 1 hours ago [-]
What an interesting Chinese operation. Undermine Nvidia, possibly force the CEO to resign, and lose half the company in a divorce. I'd say as far as China is concerned this was a successful intelligence operation.
TheOtherHobbes 52 minutes ago [-]
There was an entertaining suggestion on Twitter that the story of Lou Pai might be relevant.
Pai was CEO of a couple of Enron subsidiaries who had an affair with a stripper.
His wife divorced him, and he was forced by court to unload $250m in Enron stock just before the price crashed.
He was never charged with criminal insider trading, but he did agree to pay just over $31m in a civil suit.
He also married the stripper.
JumpCrisscross 47 minutes ago [-]
Pai’s stripper wasn’t—presumably—a foreign spy. And he didn’t corruptly quash federal investigations into her.
It is, however, a good baseline.
cyanydeez 1 hours ago [-]
and all they actually cared about is getting some good GPUs to bootstrap their already functional industrial technology sector.
Like, being paranoid about this is kinda dumb. This is pretty much just a sweet industrial play to bootstrap their technoogy sector. Something US corporations do in many different ways.
trilogic 59 minutes ago [-]
Then all Epstein involved need to resign, they have done way worse, just saying.
Cheers Jensen, you rock.
smt88 54 minutes ago [-]
Normal people already agree that everyone involved with Epstein should resign. What does that have to do with Huang?
verdverm 22 minutes ago [-]
"Epstein" as a concept of the rich elites doing whatever they want and getting away with it, has expanded to people never involved in the child sex trafficking, it's the general "Epstein Class"
The corruption is wide spread and out in the open.
tfwnopmt 1 hours ago [-]
White tech founder cheats on his wife? He's just the butt of late-night TV jokes for a few weeks. (Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Sergey Brin, Elon Musk, Steve Jobs... the list goes on)
Non-white tech founder does the same? Fire him, NOW!
Meanwhile Zuck is the only founder that's still a respectable family man, and yet he's pilloried left and right.
smt88 53 minutes ago [-]
Cheating isn’t the problem. Making sweetheart deals with her company against US interests is problem #1. Learning she was a spy and covering it up for a year is problem #2.
ilovecake1984 1 hours ago [-]
You are an idiot. Nobody cares that he cheated.
HoldOnAMinute 58 minutes ago [-]
LOL. He just hasn't been caught yet.
No one gets punished for crimes. You get punished for getting caught.
There is a nasty smear campaign against Jensen Huang throughout social media, cheating on his wife is one thing, political maneuvering before we even learn of what the actual damage if any was done and kneecapping an enterprise while America has a lead over others in AI is sabotage.
Jensen banged a customer and Chinese spy while advocating for lifting exports controls on China and corruptly quashing investigations into her firm [1].
He couldn’t have turned this into more of a public spectacle and concern if he tried. (Coming clean right after the Congress flipped didn’t help.)
[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2026/11/09/business/economy/nvidia-m...
Selling to her data center in Malaysia, a Token Speak-easy as Mo called it, may be a bigger deal in actual effect.
Not exonerating.
Flip to WWII. Charles Lindbergh was always sympathetic to the Nazis. If he got compromised by a German spy, how would that change the color of his advocacy?
This is bad. The fact that Jensen expected to get away with it, all the way until Congress flipped, speaks to how badly our country’s Epstein class has embraced their imperviousness.
Is she purely a figure from his personal life, or might she have some connection to him running NVIDIA?
Atrioc did an interesting video on the connections that are now coming to light https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql3qBe7rsVo
It was not illegal because Nvidia ensured it wouldn’t be [1].
[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2026/11/09/business/economy/nvidia-m...
Megaspeed was not blacklisted. If Megaspeed did become export controlled and NVIDIA sold them chips then that's definitely a carless business decision. But lobbying the government not to blacklist a customer is not.
I don't see a compelling reason for NVIDIA to fire Huang. If stuff comes out and he was doing something fraudulent and evading export controls then I would agree that's a bad business decision. It puts NVIDIA at risk to say the least. And what NVIDIA and Huang did could even be bad for the country.
It very well could have, apart from the corruption.
Congress wrote a law designating certain categories of companies illegal to sell chips to. Commerce was in charge of implementing it. If Nvidia fucked with Commerce, that could make the sales illegal even without a destination—the law the Congress wrote controls.
There is a lot more to this story
He wasn't just trying to get some honey on his stinger. He's much more nefarious than that.
I'm using the term "outrage" to describe the public's reaction to his actions. You are using the terms "very stupid" etc. to describe his actions, right? I don't see any disagreement between us.
2) I do not agree outrage implies overreaction. Here is a local news article from 2 days ago about the outrage some racist gesture caused. Do you think they are implying the negative reaction to racist gestures is overblown? https://www.wtva.com/2026/11/09/ole-miss-students-doorbell-c...
People can think something is a bad decision without having to be outraged, or have others claim they are outraged?
You can substitute in "People feel strongly about what he did and what sort of punishment he should incur" for the term "outrage" above and you will understand my meaning.
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Getting caught publicly making egregious unforced errors in judgment is hardly a smear campaign.
I'm not sure US law should reach into foreigners bedrooms (Or wherever they were doing it)
But it does, and it did at the time of Jensen’s alleged crimes.
If Nvidia keeps him it deserves what’s coming for it.
But that is not the case. He is the founder. A founder has a very different relationship to a company. He is its father and mother, and severing that relationship and transitioning to a CEO that does not have the same relationship is fraught with danger.
As a shareholder, for purely self interested reasons, I would be very hesitant to call for his removal.
The tragedy is resigning may avoid Jensen becoming the target of the Congress or even criminal prosecutors, now at the state level or down the line federally. (To say nothing of the coming shareholder, supplier and customer lawsuits.)
If this were just an affair, it would be nothing. If it were an affair with a customer, it could be excused with counseling. If it were an affair with a customer who turned out to be a Chinese spy, he might still be able to survive with a hiatus.
But he tried to cover it up. He lied, had Nvidia lie, had the U.S. quash investigations, and only came clean when his cronies in Congress lost. The corruption is where he loses me completely. This isn’t just a question for Nvidia shareholders.
You didn't even go the one escalation step further to "and allegedly involved in circumventing export controls on his company's products.".
For me that's the part where it just becomes impossible to believe he can continue as if nothing happened, even if it turned out she didn't influence him.
Treason is one of a few (if not the only) crimes defined in the Constitution by the framers.
It is offering aid and comfort to the enemy, or taking up arms against the US government.
China is a geopolitical rival, but you have to find a good definition for "enemy" in order to charge Huang, or anyone else, with treason. The best definition would likely be any country that the United States has declared war upon. Given that we have not done that with China, I don't think that you could convince a jury that he'd committed treason.
Espionage charges? Maybe.
Lock him up.
He was corrupt. We have no evidence he committed treason, though if he was knowingly trying to advance China’s AI, against the will of Congress and in contravention of the law, he might have.
We need investigations. And we need him to stay in the country, possibly at home, while that happens. There are also a lot of powerful people who helped him cover up his crimes who will now call for forgiving him, possibly because what he did is worse than what we know.
He's 63 years old and by all reports has never even considered any sort of succession plan, which seems wildly irresponsible to me.
At the very least, even if he manages to keep his position after this event, this should be a wakeup call to NVIDIA shareholders that this is something he really needs to address and very soon. Nobody gets to do this forever.
Huang generally presides over extremely risky and thin governance for one of the most important companies. A more humble and responsible person needs to replace him.
Is he also the nation's father and mother? Because the allegation is he put the nation's security at risk, not just the business. Or is the idea that once you found a company in some country that brings you great wealth, then you get to risk their security with impunity?
(To be clear, I am not taking a position on whether he should stay or go. I'm just pointing out your missing falls short of considering some very salient facts, and treats this like a generic founder scandal.)
What’s good for your portfolio and what’s good for the long term health of the company are not always the same thing.
If you create an environment where there are no consequences, you're inviting trouble for you as a shareholder.
If he can do this and not face serious consequences from the company, then he can do other things that are damaging, including to your bottom line.
Depending on what investigations find, it might not even matter.
All the roads lead to he must resign or be fired.
We have to stop expecting top CEOs to be perfect, required to have spotless reputation.
Jensen is relatable. I've seen him drinking a beer or two. Signing the chest of a fan.
Trillion-dollar companies CEOs use toilet paper too!
Every hero is also a heel. Why do we have to require that top CEOs have to be the full white of the Ying Yang, without the black dot? Why? Why?
What?
Also, don’t sleep with your customers and foreign spies and don’t corruptly quash federal investigations isn’t a black dot.
You can say it's "feelings" or whatever but the right thing to do would've been to be open with your wife and family about your feelings and then get a divorce and pursue the relationship...or not have the affair at all.
If he wanted the relationship that badly, not only should he have been open with his family, but he shouldn't have done so with a spy who probably has gigabytes of "kompromat" on him.
I don't blame anyone for making "mistakes", maybe even a moment of weakness or whatever, would be different, but from the article I read, seemed like an on going relationship.
The problem is, he is perceived as an untrustworthy liar who hides things and get away with them if he can.
Without Jensen, the stock will tank. He has pulled NV from the brink of disaster many times, and also selected the critical investments which paid off and allowed AI to be born (CUDA), even before they made any sense whatsoever. How do you replace that kind of intuition without decreasing the potency of the company? Face it, he's the modern day Steve Jobs.
Leave your personal hatred for job killing, soul sucking AI aside for a bit:
You cannot swap CEOs like you can swap a filesystem without having severe ripple effects. Even swapping one mature filesystem to another mature filesystem has deep consequences and can even lead you to losing data.
And this is a co-founder of the company. NVIDIA is where it is today because of him.
In every video I've seen of Jensen Huang, I've seen a genuine person who wants to do good. Yes, he caved in to basic instincts but that was because he was being actively pursued.
Whether that was a mistake is only for him and his wife to decide together. It's not our decision to make or sway. We will find out their decision soon enough.
If this affects his performance as a CEO, he has to resign.
However, make no mistake that this was an attack by a foreign government to the foundational fabric on top of which all of US Domestic AI is built.
Also take into account that the U.S was going to enter into a deep recession had it not been for Domestic AI - as much as we hate AI and curse it, banks are still operating, grocery stores are still open, welders and electricians still have jobs.
If you think we have it bad now, it's provably better than what would happen in a deep recession. The last one happened in 2008 so some of you here might not have been out of school yet, but it was very, very bad.
This is a trillion dollar stake corporate espionage. This is how cold war looks like.
He should probably go to jail (after a fair trial, of course).
Even with the few public facts we have now, I don't know how a reasonable person could conclude that it isn't extremely likely that he knew all about the export control diversions that were going on. He would have to be an idiot not to, and he clearly isn't an idiot.
That points to him being complicit in very serious (20 year sentence) crimes. https://www.bis.gov/enforcement/penalties
Of course there's no way a centibillionaire is going to do 20 days in jail, let alone 20 years (because we don't live in a society with an actually functioning rule of law), but resigning and disappearing from public life is getting off easy here.
The same legal system that protects you applies to everyone else billionaire or not.
There are two separate aspects to his relationship that are important:
1) Did he know she was a Chinese spy? Maybe not. I have no idea. It would certainly be hard to prove.
2) Did he know her company was diverting stock to the Chinese market? Almost certainly. He would have to be an actual moron to not realize this years ago, and he isn't a moron. I'd be shocked if after investigation that enough evidence didn't come to light to prove without a shadow of a doubt that he knew about the diversion the whole time.
#2 is where his real legal troubles lie. #1 is just the dramatic clickbait intrigue but not really what is likely to sink him.
The only way #1 is really important is in that it is drawing a lot of attention to looking into #2 (which was, by many reports, already a widely known open secret despite the illegality).
It's insane to think people don't consider a successful state sponsored hack as a failing of the individual, but a spy compromising them is. It's clear that nations will go to extremes that people are unaccustomed to dealing with. Lots of people have affairs — feel free to call that a personal moral failing, but treating it as a business failing is outlandish considering how frequently it happens and how it rarely has any business impact.
EDIT: If an investigation shows he actually did break the law, then by all means skewer him at that point. Calling for his resignation before actual evidence of legal wrongdoing (other than personal moral failings) is just premature.
Most people don’t have their buddies in the White House quash the investigations into their lover’s firm [1].
[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2026/11/09/business/economy/nvidia-m...
You'll just never hear her speak of it from that perspective, because, it makes her look like the Dr. Evil parody she is.
https://www.state.gov/secretary/
Read the job description.
(She also hasn't been secretary of state for nearly 14 years, you know.)
1. Hillary took a random walk through life, and ended up Secretary of State.
or
2. It fit her personality perfectly. She was the woman for the job.
You'll figure it out eventually, as my tone isn't a factor.
The article calls for resignation. Not execution.
He can do something great again with his life. Just not while he’s spending the next year being investigated in multiple countries and going through family issues.
Yes, and that was exactly the point of sending a prostitute to compromise him.
Destabalise the enemy.
When did he become 'the enemy' ? When Joe Biden crippled GPU perf on imports to China, and China decided to make their own instead.
You don't just make your own GPU. You ruin the guys that wouldn't share theirs.
This is all just politics on the world stage, at the olympic level.
We have zero evidence whether she was sent or recruited after Beijing discovered the relationship.
We might have had that evidence had Nvidia not corruptly quashed the federal investigation [1].
> This is all just politics on the world stage
What do you think China would do if we compromised one of their tech CEOs? What would America in the Cold War, when we still had a spine, have done to an executive working to advance Soviet interests while sleeping with one of their agents and influencing American policy?
[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2026/11/09/business/economy/nvidia-m...
This is unnecessarily misogynistic silliness to add to your other bigotry. She's a forty-something woman and she evidently is actually CEO of a client company.
She may actually be an intelligence asset, and she may actually be manipulating him, but we don't have to resort to this tone.
1. A person considered as having compromised principles for personal gain.
2. A woman giver to indiscriminate lewdness; a strumpet; a harlot.
And now we know the difference between inference and implication.
Not every intelligence asset is willing and you don't know the above with any certainty.
I agree completely.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp5qsEuUOWo
I'm sure the CEOs would love for us to believe that they are in their position because of merit.
For a place called Hacker News there isn’t much Hacker spirit, irrespective of which definition of Hacker one uses.
The public thinks the spy affair is a scandal, but the governments that can really hang the man see it as a round of chess.
Boards of directors and investors, we know where they vote, typically where they are legally obligated to, financial interests of shareholders.
And thats where we are right now, british billionaires magazine wants him fired. That doesn't exactly ruin his life, just being fired.
He'll survive this. Enjoy the show.
No. You haven't even tries to show that Jensen is essential to Nvidia's success. You've just said "Nvidia stock is up, Jensen is CEO, QED." That's not persuasive.
Fact is that Nvidia's stock price is mostly due to factors outside of his control. Like most CEOs,he he could be replaced with a slice of buttered toast and the same result would be achieved. So why keep him around when he's already admitted to unethical behavior? A man who cheats on his wife will cheat his investors, too.
No, I haven't, because my post was about Jensen THE MAN, and I don't own stock in Nvidia. I'm kinda pissed at Nvidia.
Lets hope Jensen gets fired, and starts Nvidia^2, so Nvidia has real competition.
Interesting times.
As a CEO, he kicks ass...
As a husband, public humiliation by memes and private humiliation by his family are in order...
How is a model minority infidelity with a woman who probably wasn't a spy, but was absolutely out to oust Lori Huang like Lauren Sanchez ousted Mackenzie Bezos worse than a felon convicted of accounting fraud put in charge of Cerebras? And don't even start on they should all be thrown out. We didn't throw out creepy, stalking, semi-assaulty womanizing Eric (piece of) Schmidt. Why don't we all just take a step back and acknowledge the model minority racism inherent in the outrage here.
Downvotes I'm sure, but I doubt anyone is going to spell out a case where JHH needs to go, but all systems normal with Sergey Brin, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Eric Schmidt, and everyone else on that page, some of whom are likely in the Epstein files which JHH isn't.
Harper Valley PTA hypocrisy to the moon here.
It's not about the act itself. It's a data point about the man's character and judgment.
A man who cheats on his wife will cheat his investors, too.
And you didn't answer the question, how is this any worse than any other tech CEO's imbroglios beyond the currently specious assertion she's a spy?
The public is thinking "Why did he have an affair with a business partner? (who also happened to be a spy). That is a massive conflict of interest. Was he putting Nvidia's interests first, or his own?
I am not convinced that he needs to resign, but describing this as a speed bump is utterly delusional.
Who hasn't had a momentary lapse of reason, especially when sex is involved ?
The billionaire class who could hang him understand all this.
His status in life is up for a vote. What do you think is happening ?
Status is a moving target.
Status is a popularity contest.
Status is not your identity.
He is going to keep being Jensen Huang.
A lot of people. Let's say that only half the people who have an affair admit it on polls like that. That still means that the majority of men and women are faithful to their spouses.
Sorry, I thought CEOs were mighty Atlases standing astride above the world of ordinary men. Now you're saying that we shouldn't hold them to a higher standard of behavior?
If his judgment is this poor about infidelity, I can only assume his judgment is even worse in matters of significant complexity.
The issue is that he may have just been caught effectively subverting US national security. Like, even in just the teaser paragraph, they spell that out:
>American officials think she is a Chinese spy, and that her Singaporean company is a front for smuggling the politically sensitive chips into China.
That's a very bad look. Way worse than just "looking like a fool".
A third point is that, as an Nvidia investor, I don't really care what the US government considers a "national secret" or if china gets the secret too. I care if this harm Nvidia's ability to generate revenue.
Good for you. Hopefully, the NVidia board does care about actually following the law.
Let's see what investigations by the board and congress uncover. It's only been days since the story broke. As a share holder, you may care that he has damaged Nvidia's reputation with the dealings (China & Trump) surrounding this.
The law also doesn’t apply to an American billionaire, on account of being a billionaire.
So really, nothing wrong happened here.
What we need is an investigation and transparency into the details. Why was Trump able to negotiate a 15% profit sharing deal with Jensen shortly after Trump was informed about this? How much did Jensen know about the export control violations?
A determination for either outcome is unwarranted without more information.
Pai was CEO of a couple of Enron subsidiaries who had an affair with a stripper.
His wife divorced him, and he was forced by court to unload $250m in Enron stock just before the price crashed.
He was never charged with criminal insider trading, but he did agree to pay just over $31m in a civil suit.
He also married the stripper.
It is, however, a good baseline.
Like, being paranoid about this is kinda dumb. This is pretty much just a sweet industrial play to bootstrap their technoogy sector. Something US corporations do in many different ways.
The corruption is wide spread and out in the open.
Non-white tech founder does the same? Fire him, NOW!
Meanwhile Zuck is the only founder that's still a respectable family man, and yet he's pilloried left and right.
No one gets punished for crimes. You get punished for getting caught.